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February 02, 2004

Neglected 04:55 PM, 4 Comments

Hmm, seems the new year has had me posting less and less to this blog. I'm not much of a blogger anyway, but for what it's worth, I've been busy outside of the computer realm. I imagine that in the summer, or even next winter, I'll be back to my old cyber self. Especially if I have one of these by then. Gotta wait till the dual 3 gigahertz ones come out in the summer, ya'know. Really, they promised! Besides, I'm supposed to be saving for other stuff, as said stuff has been keeping quite a lot of my attention lately.

Anyone know a cooperative lawyer, bank manager, or CPA that would be really nice and sign a paper saying that I am who I say I am with some forms of ID, without charging me an arm and a leg? I've been wanting to get my e-mail key notarized, and getting a couple of the above to sign a paper is the best way, as it instantly makes me a notary to be able to sign other peoples' keys in Thawte's web of trust. Unfortunately, the Lawyer I know is in Costa Rica, the CPA I know doesn't work at a firm, and I don't know any bank managers. I guess I'll just have to pay their high fees. Sigh.

What, you want me to ramble more? Sheesh, you go this far. Hmm. Well, I'll have to catch you later.


I thought the State government controlled this function.

One power granted:

The following notarial acts may be performed by a notary within the state:
(1) Acknowledgments, including authentication of an electronic or digital signature upon the personal knowledge or satisfactory evidence of the identity of the signer.

You would need a $5,000 bond, pay some fees, take a test, etc.

Posted by: Kentie at February 3, 2004 08:41 PM


The process above is to become a Utah Notary Public and to officially perform the duty mentioned (among others). To just have your own digital signiture authenticated, you pay up to $5 to a Notary Public--such as my Aunt Roxie, who may charge much less. Is this the high fee you mention? Also, since she knows you, you don't need ID.

Utah Code 46-1-2. Definitions.

(10) "Personal knowledge of identity" means familiarity with an individual resulting from interactions with that individual over a period of time sufficient to eliminate every reasonable doubt that the individual has the identity claimed.

Posted by: Kentie at February 3, 2004 08:55 PM

As far as the Thawte process (nice play on words) Branch Managers and CPAs charge for such a non-standard service? I know a couple of Bank Managers that would just do this, and a CPA too. Seems like a strange process to me. I'm not sure they would like the part about saving the documents until Thawte contacts them, but you could ask.

Anyway...I was just looking for pictures of the house. :)

Posted by: Kentie at February 3, 2004 09:08 PM

Heh, this is just for a little Thawte digital signature in their "Web of trust" not so much a full-on Utah Notary. Once you get so many signature points, you can sign other Thawte certificates. Thawte's web of trust is analogous to PGP, only there is a recognized certificate authority in the mix. It's nothing to do with the State -- it's more just proving to Thawte that you're a real person. Thawte is a South Africa company, with some US locations. I don't think they care much about Utah's laws.

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